The ultimate nostalgia nudity.
This was the nude scene of the year in 2000. To this day, it remains the only scene to get more votes than all of the others combined!
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When we took a look back at the first two decades of the millennium, you chose this as the #5 nude scene.
The four that beat it:
1. Alexandra Daddario in True Detective
2. Eva Green in The Dreamers
3. Scarlett Johansson in Under the Skin
4. Rosario Dawson in Trance
ScarJo, Dawson and Holmes were nearly in a three-way tie for third place, and there was a significant drop-off after the top five. The next batch included:
Halle Berry in Monsters Ball
Margot Robbie in The Wolf of Wall Street
Jessica Chastain in Salome
Angelina Jolie in Original Sin
Gretchen Mol in The Notorious Bettie Page
Sarah Silverman in Take This Waltz
Chloe Sevigny in The Brown Bunny
Michelle Borth in Tell Me You Love Me
Speaking of nostalgia, I imagine most people don’t know this since I just made it up today:
The most interesting thing about the original Planet of the Apes is that they deleted the original ending. It featured the Apes in a council meeting where one says “We really need to finally repair that replica of the Statue of Liberty that we made after seeing it on Earth.”
Someone online once commented, “How could he not have noticed the moon up in the sky?”
You’re fact-checking Planet of the Apes?
1. They supposedly traveled for 18 months at NEAR light speed, meaning that they could not have traveled more than 1.5 light years, but Charlton somehow reckons that they are 320 light years from home. (Well, as we know, he was wrong since they were on Earth, but still … that’s kind of outside the normal margin of error! )
2. The Earth clock told them that 2000 years would have passed on Earth during their voyage – clearly not enough time for existing simians to evolve into the civilization shown here. Two thousand years is nothing in geological time. To go from the first appearance of homo sapiens to a level of development approximately equal to the apes shown here took humans – I dunno – maybe 200,000 years.
Well there are lots of planets with moons. I’d like to see somebody do a Planet of the Apes movie with my little twist twist ending.
Time is relative. We understand that now, not sure in that era. Modern sci fi writes it in, like Interstellar (who did it poorly) and the famous novel “The Hail Mary Plan” (who does it perfectly).
The latter focuses on it: the issue of more time passing on earth than on the mission, putting a massive time pressure on succeeding before the planet dies.
It’s all about getting distance from earth at near-light speed. Time here starts going faster than time there, and via some wibbly-wobbly-timey-wimey doctor who stuff, the astronauts experience a few years while decades fly by on earth.
Supposedly, 18 months pass in their lives, and 2000 years on earth. That was completely reasonable. No problem.
Here are the problems:
1. Charlton did some calculations and thought they had traveled 320 light years from Earth in 18 months without exceeding the speed of light. (Sure, he was wrong, but how did he make that calculation?) Based on the ending of the film, we now know that they actually traveled 3/4 of a light year out and 3/4 back – which is actually possible – but how could they have thought otherwise? If they didn’t think they were on Earth, they could have been no farther than 1.5 light years away without exceeding the speed of light.
And how did the woman with them turn into a mummy in just 18 months, irrespective of whether her chamber burst.
Of course there are so many other things that should have made it obvious to them that they were on Earth – the Earth technology like the rifles; the exact same shape, size and color of the sun and moon; the exact same atmosphere and gravity, the fact that the apes spoke English … etc.
2. Granting that 2000 years had passed in Earth, there was nowhere near enough time for simians to have evolved to this stage. That would probably require something like 200,000 years, based on the evolution of homo sapiens to this stage. As I noted earlier, 2000 years in cosmic time is like a single flutter of a hummingbird’s wings. Not much changes in a complex, long-lived species in 2000 years. Look at humans in the time of the ancient Greeks and now. We have more technology, but have not evolved biologically.
Some of these problems were not found in the original novel..
You could fix those problems with just a little dubbing:
For example:
They slept in suspended animation for thousands of years , thus explaining the condition of their companion, while also explaining why they thought they were hundreds of light years away. Meanwhile, hundreds of thousands or even millions of years had passed on Earth, thus allowing the evolution of other species to the level of technology seen here. The only thing left to explain would be the exceptional state of preservation of the Statue of Liberty after hundreds of thousands of years.
In the original novel, the story took place in the far future of Earth, but the visitors did not land on Earth. The ape society on that planet was far more advanced than the one Charlton encountered – to the point where they had inchoate space travel comparable to Earth in the 1960s.
The humans’ spacecraft remained in orbit around the planet during the duration of the tale. It was only their shuttle that crashed. Through a combination of the space vehicles of the ape civilization and their mother ship, they did return to Earth at the end of the story for a surprise ending that was comparable to the one in the movie, followed by a double-twist surprise after that.
Time dilation goes back to Einstein’s special theory of relativity.
To repeat myself, the concept of time dilation was the only thing they got right. 18 months passed in their lives, equal to 2000 years on Earth. That’s completely possible.
Three other things are NOT plausible:
1. 2000 years is nothing in cosmic time. The apes could not have evolved that much in a mere 2000 years. That probably would have required some 200,000 years.
2. Charlton could not have thought that they traveled 300+ light years in 18 months if they were below light speed.
3. The female astronaut should not have mummified in 18 months.
As I mentioned earlier, the whole problem could be fixed with some dubbing, so that they thought themselves to have traveled 400 years in suspended animation, although 200,000 years passed on Earth. Then all three of those problems would go away.
Of course, that would not account for Charlton not being at all suspicious that the apes spoke English, and all the other obvious evidence that they were on Earth.
Alternately, the authors could have had them employ some unknown technology to travel faster than light, ala many other sci-fi epics, thus explaining how Charlton calculated that they traveled 300+ light years in such a short time. We have no idea what kind of time dilation could occur at such speeds, how the time-space continuum would be warped, or what kind of impact it could have on the human body, so they could have added some pseudo-scientific gibberish to explain the mummified astronaut, and the passage of thousands of centuries on Earth.
I thought it odd that the apes were armed with Remington Model 8 rifles, a design first put on the market in 1905.
As we’ve repeatedly discussed, this is the ultimate famous-cute-nobody-thought she-would-do-this-scene. The scene itself isn’t all that special.
I disagree. Is it brief? Yes. But just look at it: reasonably lit fully exposed tits and teeny tiny very flimsy panties that leave little to the imagination.
I’d say we can make a category just for it: most explicit one-time nude scene by a famous actress that never got before or after anywhere.
I mean, nothing. No paps, no outtakes, no modeling stuff, she may as well be a 19th century widowed school marm for everything outside these couple of minutes, but she went whole hog for these couple of minutes.
I love the scene too. Katie did a topless covered photo for Glamour a few years back. She also gave this quote about going topless in 2014:
“I have done it before when I was young, the right time to do it. But if the part called for it, sure, I’d do it again. I think people need to embrace themselves, their creativity and their bodies.”
There was also a report that she filmed a topless scene for Disturbing Behavior, but it was cut. Don’t know how true it was, but I don’t think it would be surprising.
I don’t buy that for a second.
You have footage of Katie Holmes topless, you use it, because it’s gonna mean a ton of money for your movie. You don’t pay her to get naked and then just bury it.
I read something years ago that she was topless or nude in a movie she made at the time she was hooking up with Tom Cruise and he had enough pull to made it go away. He didn’t want his new wife being naked in a movie which I thought at the time was stupid since he and Nicole made Eyes Wide Shut! Didn’t fact check it but remember reading it and hoping someone would publish the outtakes because she look great in The Gift.
Disappointing thing about the scene: Katie’s wearing a thong but we don’t get a good full view of her ass.
Chloe Sevigny in “The Brown Bunny” should not be in consideration due to the fact that Vincent Gallo’s cock is a fake. It was actually a prop that he stole from a Claire Denis film he did a few years before that.
What is your source for this?
Somehow, he fooled Chloe, and that was not easy to do because she had sucked his actual dick offscreen.
Here’s my source from Claire Denis:
Do some fucking research next time and don’t fucking argue with a film snob.
Over the years I have looked for any evidence that Claire Denis said any such thing. It doesn’t seem to be something Claire Denis actually said, but something she is rumored to have said. Trying to find the source of the rumor, all I could find was an anonymous poster who claimed he overheard her saying something about the scene. Furthermore, even the alleged quote did not say what you claimed. It said there was a dildo missing after that filming, and that it looked like Gallo’s on-screen dick. Even if that really happened, it doesn’t add up to “fake.”
“Some anonymous guy” on the internet is pretty flimsy evidence compared to Chloe Sevigny’s own words, especially that she was willing to do it because they had previously been intimate off-screen.
Claire Denis is on record in an interview as saying she “loves” Vince Gallo and thought The Brown Bunny was “great.” Apart from that, I’ve found nothing else she has said about the film or the penis. Given how much Denis loves Gallo as a person, as well as his work, it seems unlikely that she would throw much shade on it.
If you can find an actual quote from Claire Denis and not something she is rumored to have said, I will look at it, and possibly change my mind.
You mean here is your source, anonymous wikipedia editor with IP 123.3.95.137, who provides no sources of their own
I don’t think it should be considered because it is something completely different.
That’s more to the point. It should not be very high on the list simply because it is just not a good female nude scene.
(The other guy’s point is pretty much irrelevant to our list, even if true, but it would be a major deal-breaker if we were evaluating MALE nude scenes.)
If I remember right, the Borth scene is also alleged to involve a fake dick.
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I wonder who it was in her circle that first told her about the line in the Harold & Kumar movie about her tits being the opposite of the Holocaust? And I wonder what her reaction was?
I say this is a great scene for all the obvious reasons and also the fact that she has a really flat stomach to go with those two most obvious reasons.
There’s no frontal, and no clear butt shot, but I find the shape of her body just beautiful. I would love this scene even if it was an anonymous extra. The fact that it’s Katie puts it over the top.
I think I’d rate her scene at number one or at the very lowest second behind Daddario. Katie is just that beautiful with an absolutely perfect body. She may not be quite as endowed as Daddario, Green, or Scarjo, but there is absolutely no sag anywhere. We may not be able to see her from behind, but somehow I doubt she has the cellulite of Camila Cabello. Actually, I’d put her at number one and keep the others in the same order. There is no shame in coming in second in that company. As both the American and the British Patrick Maitland said in the pilot episode, there has to be a second place.
To this day I find it pathetic that many people complained about Scarlett Johansson completely naked in under the skin, some said that her body wasn’t all it was cracked up to be, that her breasts had gotten smaller, that she had a little cellulite on her butt. Of course, it couldn’t have been the majority of people who said that… But I remember a lot of people saying things like that. The point is that there will always be people complaining, no matter how beautiful the scene is and no matter how beautiful the actress’ body is. Many complain about Emma Stone’s nudity in poor things, talk about her breasts or that they wanted to see more of her ass, as if these people didn’t know that Emma never had big breasts
The internet has allowed humans to accelerate dramatically their capacity for three things:
As I said, there is no shame in coming in second in that company. Nor is their shame in being 5th. All of those women are stunningly beautiful. I was not trying to disparage any of them. I just felt that Katie was the most beautiful in a group of beautiful women.
I agree that one of the worst things is porn, I’m not saying I never watched it as a teenager either haha, but it really caused false expectations and false impressions about what real sex, a woman’s real body is like and how it works. Porn is more unreal than even a simulated sex scene from these Hollywood movies lol. And not to mention that this also brought other worse consequences
Also can lead young people to pursue careers as pizza guys/ pool cleaners/ plumbers and then expecting to get all the ass.