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🚨🚨🚨🚨 Trump has posted a fake picture of Abrego Garcia’s hand where they have photoshopped letters spelling MS-13 on his upper knuckles.
Here is the original.
It’s spreading all over MAGA media. pic.twitter.com/sUXetaAvsT
— Rachel Bitecofer 🗽🦆 (@RachelBitecofer) April 18, 2025
It’s not really a fake picture or a Photoshop, as suggested above, but rather interpretive captions. Some law enforcement agency seems to have added the “M S 1 3” and the words “marijuna smile cross skull” to demonstrate what they thought might be the meaning of the pics. Trump, on the other hand, seems to think that he is holding up a raw image of the man’s knuckles, and that the man had M-S-1-3 in Times New Roman tattooed above the little symbols.
For the record, the symbols actually on the man’s knuckles are not known to be a symbol for MS13 at all. The four symbols – “Marijuana,” “Smiley,” “Cross” and “Skull” – are not identified elsewhere as a surrogate or code for MS-13 gang identification.
Actual MS-13 tattoos are easy to spot – they look like this.
Total moron of a President. And people think he has a plan with his chaos. No, chaos is just chaos.
Short-term pain for long-term uh we’ll figure that out later. Christ what an asshole.
All these MAGA morons seem to be (purposefully?) missing the point – it’s not about whether this guy is a saint or a sinner, it’s about due process, and how his was completely ignored. And if his is ignored, why do you think yours can’t be?
Because we aren’t illegal immigrants
These morons love comparing the illegal immigrants to the Jews in Nazi germany. One is in a country illegally and committed crimes. The other simply happened to be Jewish. Liberals are emotionally unhinged. Always have been.
How about those children who are US citizens being deported including a cancer patient?
The mother was deported and took her child with her. That’s her right. If they had deported her and kept the kid here, you’d all be yelling they are separating families.
That’s not her sole right, especially if the father or legal guardian is an American citizen, and certainly if the children are citizens.
(1) I understand that lawyers for the father say he was not consulted and did not agree.
(2) I think that it is also common for judges to assign the kids their own lawyer in tricky cases like this. Those lawyers’ responsibilities would be solely to the children, not either parent.
Again, those are matters for the courts to review and decide.
Moreover, it doesn’t even appear that the mother actually made the choice to take the kids. It seems that ICE never presented her with any options.
You’re clueless.
The deportations already include American citizens, and Trump has already said the “home-growns” are coming up.
1. He’s he’s trying to scare criminals into not committing crimes. 2. He’s trolling. .
It’s funny how literal people take him.
1) He really seemed convinced those typed letters were part of the tattoos when he was talking to that reporter. He might actually be that gullible. Remember this is a man who has said, “I really believe Putin,” which is pretty much the height of naivete.
2) By the way, if he doesn’t really think the typed letters are tattoos, the correct verb would be “lying,” not “trolling.”
3) It doesn’t seem that this Garcia guy is much of a criminal. He appears to have a legitimate case for refugee status, although he never applied (that I know of).
4) Do you really think we have to deport every person who ever entered or stayed in the country illegally? I’m all for that if it includes Elon.
I meant he was trolling with his “homegrown” comments. Personally I’d prefer they only deport illegals who committed a crime but you can’t say that because it would encourage more illegal immigration.
He’s a citizen in El Salvadore, in el salvadore. He was in the US illegally. Those are undisputed facts. He’s right where he belongs. If el salvadore wants to release him and set him up in a mansion on the water, that’s their call.
The moron is back,
Never left! Where’s the intellectual genius, “Einstein of our time”? (Adam)
“It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt”.
I’m all for getting gangbangers off our streets, but let’s make sure we get rid of the right guys, not some randos. In the case of this guy, he may be able to make a case for staying in the country, or he may not.
Whether he’s illegal and/or a gang member and/or a criminal … whether he should be deported … those are matters for the courts to decide through due process, not for me or you or a masked goon squad of people who refuse to identify themselves or show their badges. That’s even more important now that the deportations are including American citizens.
The point of the post is how hilarious Trump is. Is he really stupid enough to think that the letters typed on the picture are part of the tattoos, or is he lying? (With him, it’s always impossible to say.)
I don’t like Trump but I like his policies. Your posts are always funny. And the comments are usually gold.
And your posts are always ignorant drivel.
Hey, all I ask for is consistency! âś”
More facts –
He was under a court order not to be shipped to El Salvador.
Supremes, 9-0, said bring him back, give him his due process. (Kindergarten-level parsing of “facilitate” is a stall/dodge from the DOJ because they know they’ve got nothing.)
Ah, the perpetual excuse of the Trump apologist: “He didn’t mean what he said!”. With Trump, how can anyone tell the difference?
You can’t. That’s the genius (and power) of being unpredictable. You have to look at the results. For all the niceties Trump has to say about Putin, Putin only invaded Ukraine under Obama and then under Biden. You think that’s coincidence? Results.. Border crossings down 99%. Results. Men out of women’s sports. New trade deals that are more beneficial to the US.
You can’t. That’s why the economy’s hair is on fire.
So, ending the Ukraine war on day one – that was bullshit, or he just couldn’t?
New trade deals? Name a couple-three.
That is not genius and deep power. That is lying and being childish and/or senile. It’s lucky for you that you have no shame, otherwise you would be embarrassed by the excuses you have to make for Trump.
Oh, and your list of Trump achievements is hilarious. Thanks!
Roger, that’s your problem. What you consider government “achievements” , I don’t want them even attempting. The government has limited use. Secure the borders. Protect the citizenry. Defend the nation. Provide public utilities. Otherwise! I don’t want to even hear from them. You can sit around with your friends and have inexperienced mental masturbation sessions. You can date if you want “love”. You can give to charity if you care about the able bodied, young welfare recipients. You can pick your own vegetables. You can send your own money for causes over seas. I don’t give a shit about any of it. All I know is the government is incompetent.
Yes Nature Mom. Ending the Ukraine war on “day 1” was always bullshit. He meant he will end it quickly. That’s what he meant from the second it came out of his mouth. We will see about the trade deals. I’m confident most, if not all, will be accomplished in the next few months at better terms for the US. That’s a win. Tariffs are not staying long term. That is also bullshit to get better deals.
Trump argued with an interviewer for five minutes about this. It’s the photoshop job of a 12 year old. Has Trump checked in with his parol officer yet?
Being in the country illegally makes him a criminal. Literally the law, whether crybaby Democrats agree or not. Makes no difference if he was or was not a gang member. I bet you soft little libs would not want him as your next door neighbor though. 🤣
If Trump getting fooled by AI altered images or whatever, well LOL. The things Democrats take as a “win” and run with is hilarious. You really need to do better. Here is a hint, hatred for Trump is not a winning strategy.
Meanwhile, there will only be more winning for the next 1,361 days! Get used to it.
Wiping your ass on the Constitution is a crime, not a win. Though watch for it, Reichsfuehrer Scheisskopf will *call* it a win. And you’ll oink along…
Liberals wiped their ass with the constitution when they let 20m people come into OUR house and used OUR money to support those people. Biden opened the borders. Now there are repercussions. Beginning with Trump being elected again. You did this to yourself. Stop crying and start following the constitution you suddenly care about. Get rid of sanctuary cities. Stop redefining biological facts. And stop turning cities into crime ridden, homeless infested shitholes. My hometown of NYC was clean and beautiful under Bloomberg. Look what you lunatics did to it.
It’s too bad people like you can’t be shipped off and get the same result of what you wish to do to people who are trying to survive on slave labor jobs. Instead you hide behind the keyboard like a coward, like every other Trump supporter.
The 20 mill number has always been bullshit. I know it’s something Rump said a lot of times; doesn’t make it true. Migrants are a net gain for the economy. (Who else is going to pick strawberries, you?) They pay taxes, they do consumer spending, they drive the economy. Even if none of this was true, there’s nothing in the Constitution about “don’t let Mexicans take our jerbs!”
I swear, if it weren’t for lies and whatabouts, you lot wouldn’t have anything to say at all.
Immigrants are welcome to come to this country LEGALLY. If you don’t like the law, then change it. However selectively enforcing laws because you need slaves to pick your fruits and vegetables is not your right. Our laws are binding agreements and compromises for all of us to live together in peace and harmony. When you decide to set up sanctuary cities to evade the law, or open the borders to illegal immigration, then you are violating your side of the societal pact. That is where the hostility comes from in politics.
I’m in MD, where he is from. Send him back and he can live next door to me. Tattoos don’t make people dangerous.
He’d be deported even if they did bring him back. Like I wrote above, he’s an el Salvador citizen, who is now in el Salvador and he was in the US illegally. He’s literally home. Regardless of what US courts say, he is clearly under the jurisdiction of El Salvador.
is Murder Illegal? is robbing Illegal ? The same people who can not define the term woman can’t define illegal either
And don’t scream due process ask the man in Texas who was gunned down by an illegal just yesterday about due process. You wnt them so badly take em in your home like Adrienne Shelley did.
Then maybe Texas should have used those millions of dollars they bussed people around the US in metro cities for you know, actually fighting crime in general? Plenty of murders and robberies happen by the normal US citizen instead of this ridiculous small percentage used for those who don’t have a made up legal status.
Does it feel better to get murdered by a plain old white legal citizen rather than an illegal immigrant or something? Feel free to do a search on sex offender registry and see what’s up there, or the last time some Texas good ole boy killed someone in a DUI and plaster one of those incidents 24/7 on the news constantly since the point is all about stopping senseless deaths. Ah that’s right, it never happens outside a blurb in the local evening news .. wonder why.
and here’s the leftist justifying murder did you abort 20 babies today? If they were not in the country GENIUS the victim would still be alive but morons like you paint the illegals as victims but yet you can’t even say the victims names
Hey genius, if the money was focused on CRIME and not a group of people with a small percentage that may or may not commit crime, wouldn’t that make more sense? Spend a billion dollars removing mostly people who aren’t causing problems working hard labor jobs for low pay, and you might get rid of some criminals. Or would you rather spend a billion dollars fighting crime in general across groups? This is why you idiots are the scum of society.
If a fertilized egg is immediately your threshold for life, maybe you should take a biology class and see how many of those “die” in the normal course of pregnancy. Anyone who has a baby becomes a serial killer by default. And you’re talking about abortion when millions of women throughout history have died in childbirth due to pregnancy complications – how about them? Regardless of what you consider a life, enforcing a risk for one life for another by law with penalty of imprisonment is absolutely ridiculous. If you don’t think so, next time you see a fire, imagine if the law said you had to run into the building to save someone at your own expense or be thrown in prison.
Once again, like the entire MAGA community, you people are hypocrites who trips over rudimentary logic because of your addiction to rage and your cult echo chamber.
they commit a crime the second they enter the country ILLEGALLY
Yep. And largely it’s a crime that benefits the USA with hardworking, honest people, who have the initiative and drive to work for better things. But it makes a great distraction to fool the rednecks and racists with, doesn’t it?
How many people commit a crime by jaywalking, speeding, or not coming to a complete stop? Look around, there’s “crimes” all around that mostly aren’t hurting anyone.
And that’s the point, you don’t give a shit about the “crime” – you just see a brown person on TV and get pissed they exist because you’ve been brainwashed to do so and conduct no logical thinking. Guessing if there were an influx of hot Norwegian blonde women coming in, there wouldn’t be much problem with it.
Just own the racism and your own mental problems for a change instead of acting like you people have some justification for the way you act.
Indy, the issue with illegal immigrants is that they aren’t supposed to be here. Your side decided on behalf of all society that you know what’s best for us and so you ignore the laws we agreed upon. The liberals wanted amnesty in the 80s and got it. The concession was that it was a one time thing. So now that you can’t get more amnesty, you just open the borders to people who benefit from our tax dollars and our resources. Who gave you that power? Who told you that you can simply ignore what we enshrined in law, because it’s what you want or feel is “just”. Therefore when you decide to defy the law and allow people into this country illegally, you are now responsible for their actions. One murder by an illegal alien is on your head. Crimes committed by American citizens were and are going to be committed. And they get the rights, protections! and punishment to which they are entitled. The single biggest problem with liberals is that you think you know how to spend my money and protect my “needs” better than I do.
Steverino your half of society decided that these people shouldn’t be given work visas despite the agricultural, service and construction industries being dysfunctional without them.
An illegal immigrant has no workers rights and conservatives couldn’t be happier about that.
Steve, who gave YOU the power to determine who is supposed to be here or not? You realize, all these things that determine law, are subjective frameworks with enforcement right. The god of Ra didn’t come down and hand down a golden book of capitalistic nationalism of supply and demand that all humans must live by. Maybe you should ask yourself why you’re so triggered by that fact and not triggered by the fact there’s jaywalkers, speeders, or more important things like abuse of power in chain of command of public companies and manipulations of resource allocation based false pretenses of merit.
The fact is, you portray immigrants as utilizing funding from the taxpayer, and if you’re going to make such a proposition you have to PROVE that with research. They DO pay taxes, which is why DOGE is attempting to pull information from IRS, is that not correct? And each state has sales tax, tell me how they get around that one? Of course you don’t care about the logic, you just get riled up by primitive tribalism because you see a bunch of people on the street wherever you are in NYC, or on the news, and get annoyed its crowded or whatever anecdotal story of the week is about someone, somewhere doing something bad in a certain group of people without actual research or data.
You don’t care about that though, which is obvious because you’re bringing up the usual talking points, men in womens sports, etc. How many womens college swim meets have you watched by the way? Its odd how these selective things that are brought up so much aren’t even things you nutjobs even care about, unless it’s something to have false outrage and persecution complex.
The problem with people like you is you think you live in a vacuum. You didn’t invent this computer or phone you’re typing on now, you didn’t invent the TCP/IP system, and these are things taxpayers paid for that went into the base of collective knowledge you utilize for whatever in the hell you do – but for some reason its all “MINE.” And every damn person in society has a right to enforce paying into the system of the collective knowledge gained by society, most often off the back of taxpayer funded money, just as much as a venture capitalist does on the ‘return’ they get for investment. And that return is nothing more than reasonableness than protections from abuse of greed and power.
If you use other people’s collective knowledge funded by taxpayers in the public domain, or originally created by the engineer for egalitarian purposes, it’s not all “YOUR” resources you’ve benefited from, and the other people in society absolutely have a say in the return you get on it and what you have to pay back for utilizing it. Don’t like it? Go live in the fucking Amazon and barter with the natives since you’re such a badass Libertarian.
No one owes you shit, you’re not better than anyone else because you use ALL the same collective resources and knowledge as anyone else, and the only leeches are people like you who think your ‘rugged individualism’ got you to where you are, but sure as hell don’t mind using all the inventions and engineering of giants paid for by collective society to do so. You pay taxes for it, boo fucking hoo, moron.
I, like you, dont get to decide who gets to come here. However WE have established laws, process and procedures. But everyone is seeking asylum and the president can choose to level of laws enforcement, right? That’s usually the democratic talking point. So you’re basically looking for loopholes to get around established laws and know you’re doing it. So now we have more people to share our resources with because of you. This isn’t about tribalism, it’s about common sense. If our country has all the resources and all the opportunity, and all the freedom, then that is a good thing. And it’s not something I’m willing to share willingly with everyone. Tampon Tim said that if you don’t believe in freedom for everyone then you want in privilege. Damn right I do. It’s my privilege. I was born here, I am an American citizen, I pay taxes, I employ people. This is my privilege as an American. if we shared it with everyone, then this country wouldn’t be “great”. It would be a vehicle to ensure equity across the world at our expense. I think that pretty much sums up the liberal world view, no? Take from the haves (America) and give to the have nots (rest of the world). That’s very altruistic and I commend all of you for that. Now get your hands off my stuff. Give them your stuff. Give them your money. Give them your resources. I want all of the privilege that being American offers me. This includes the InFRASTRUCTURE that exists for me and every other American. Americans can tap into that collective knowledge, technology, and utility to become whatever they want in this nation. But, once it hits my bank account, it is now mine. Not yours. Not the collective good. Not the worlds. It’s mine. “You didn’t build that”? You’re damn right I did. I did things the right way. I took care of my employees. I donated to charity, I helped the common good. That was and is my choice. Not yours and certainly not the governments. Just because I don’t want the government in the business of charity doesn’t mean I don’t believe in charity. I don’t want my charity going to your causes. I want them going to mine. I don’t care what you do with yours. That’s the fundamental difference between us. You want to share my money and my freedom and my rights. I don’t. At least not because you made me.
Well at least you’re showing your true colors with the whole privilege thing Steve, the whole ego and hoarding of resources is pretty much the sociopathic tendencies that’s probably going to lead to our extinction. Iterate the same ideas you just said about yourself over and over, and eventually the end result is all resources are flooded to a handful of people as they destroy the world, because fewer and fewer own the chain of command and resources to manipulate the system for more and more. You’re expendable, because there’s always a bigger dog out there eventually, who will apply your same vision of reality where you’re on the other end.
I couldn’t give a less of shit about your nationalistic pride and materialism and ‘rugged individuality.’ It’s the most tired trope in human history, and there’s a lot of nice archeological relics of the same sentiment of empires that have fallen throughout history. If humanity is around in 500 years and evolved to think a little bit deeper, I’m sure sentiments like yours will make a nice history lesson about how the entitled false sense of merit based on the framework of capitalism and chain of command instead of actual skill and ability led to resource hoarding and eventually destruction will be studied extensively.
At least you’ve exposed yourself to have the emotional and logical intelligence level of a preschooler fighting over toys. At least post your manifesto on your website or LinkedIn so your clients and employees know what kind of person you are. And so glad your philosophy is bringing you so much obvious peace in life.
Indy, I respect you because you are the only one here willing to have an actual conversation about the true nature of ideology. Everyone else is throwing out talking points. Obviously there are smart people on both sides. Let’s drop the bullshit and have a real conversation. You care and I don’t. Period. The government shouldn’t be in the business of feelings. That’s the hill I stand on.
Steve, you can think whatever you want, I really don’t care either. The main difference between you and me is you think the invisible arm of the market of supply and demand, with the chain of command should guide everything, with government as a controlling entity. The government is made up by the arm of the people, and the people can utilize it’s collective force however it sees fit. You also don’t seem to understand that punitive concepts only go so far in developing society as a safer place as well. If maxing out punishment worked and made the word safer, then when the Roman Empire crucified people it should have ended that in perpetuity and they should be around today. It’s well studied that income inequity has a direct correlation with crime, but you think if you throw enough billions at the whip, its going to solve problems.
In the end, I’m only advocating for the same exact principals you libertarians believe is the fair market, applied to society as a whole. If private corporate contracting firms can utilize its collective labor as a class for the C-suite and shareholders to profit from renting out their employees to the government and other corporations, then the collective labor of the United States workforce as a whole through the arm of representation can do the same as a class to demand fair wages to the capitalist class. If venture capitalists can demand a monetary return on investment, then so can the collective whole of the American taxpayer who paid for infrastructure and establishment of currency to promote commerce.
If tech companies can be provided protections through intellectual property enforcement and licensing for their own enrichment, so can the collective accomplishments funded by, or created directly by government that has supplied numerous advancements. There are license agreements in technology like the GPL that require those that take code freely developed for the public good and use it, that they do the same in kind when they expand on it and give back with what they created to the public good, and that philosophy could be applied to many things beyond just development code.
I’m simply applying the same exact philosophies the libertarian claims are ‘allowed’ through capitalism to what the American taxpayer has funded to get a return on. You seem to think people aren’t allowed to do that, and I do, and it’s as simple as that.
cost taxpayers 451vbillion annualy under president ice cream cone
guessing the source of that ridiculous figure is president bs artist.
Google
“Research shows that illegal immigrants increase the size of the US economy, contribute to economic growth, enhance the welfare of natives, contribute more in tax revenue than they collect, reduce American firms’ incentives to offshore jobs and import foreign-produced goods, and benefit consumers by reducing the prices of goods and services.[11][12][13][14] Economists estimate that legalization of the illegal immigrant population would increase the immigrants’ earnings and consumption considerably, and increase US gross domestic product.[15][16][17][18] Most scientific studies have shown that illegal immigrants commit less crime than natives and legal immigrants.[19][20][21] Sanctuary cities—which adopt policies designed to avoid prosecuting people solely for being in the country illegally—have no statistically meaningful impact on crime.[22][23] Research suggests that immigration enforcement has no impact on crime rates.[22][24][25]”
The 16 citations are available in reference format on Wikipedia if you would like to make an educated rebuttal. But reading your responses, I’m going to assume even a high school diploma is probably above your education level.
Clueless.
Where on Google? Just saying Google is like saying “Earth” when someone asks where you are. It’s the answer you give when you either haven’t got an answer, or you want to lie without being specific.